Monday, September 22, 2008
Prejudice in America?
How do you feel about the following statement that O'Brien makes to Steve on page 78-79 of Monster? O'Brien tells Steve, "Half of those jurors, no matter what they said when we questioned them when we picked the jury, believed you were guilty the moment they laid eyes on you. You're young, you're black, and you're on trial. What else do they need to know?"
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What o'brien meant when she said that steve is young impliing tht he is a teenager. He is black, that meant other people ass/u/me that he is up to no good, and the fact he is on trial that pretty much concludes others desicion. So they are not favoring him at all.
I agree with Juror 826. The jurors in Monster were being Prejudice and that answers our DO NOW. If i were Steve i would be very mad!
i think that what o brian had said about the prjeduce thign really got me mad. that is beacuse how are they gonna claim someone guilty just by looking at them? thats lie saying there is a robbery going on and you blame the guy right next to the stroe just because HE LOOKS like it
i agree with juror828 that they cant just claim sumone guilty just by looking at them , predejuice is very unfair. i think that steve should get the fair chance to defend him slef other than just being guoly just by the way he looks
What O'Brien meant when she said that Steve is young and black means that when people look at you they see a stereotypical bad black person that always up to no good, the jury has no right to say oh hes guilty because hes black, they should at least have a background check on Steve. Besides someone who goes to Bronx Science dosen't seem like a bad guy to me.
oh yeah and thats very prejudice
The jurors in monster, in my oppinion were more racist than prejudice. What they basically did was decide that just because he was black and young. Just because he was black and on court they assumed that he was defenitely a trouble maker and he should be on trial even though they were asked some questions.
I feel that mostly any one that is on trial is viewed guilty upon the jury. He is a teenager black and on trial for murder. They prejudged him. that is wat O'Brien meant by that statement.
i agree with all those before me. there is prejudice in the world around us. according to O'Brien, the jurors judged him before even hearing his side of the story. i feel that it is unjust. however that is how the world is today. there is wrong and right but it doesn't matter when it comes down to it. teenagers are known to do a lot of bad hokus pokus. that is why steve was judged just like that. to be on trial means that you have done something wrong or have the reputation to do it. nothing ever goes right with people like this. nothing else has to be said because they think that they know everything.
i think what O'brien said is kind of wrong to say, cause it's like for example the saying dont judge a book by its cover just because steve is black doenst mean that his not a good person.Juror 826 i agree with you cause the people did ASS/U/ME and just lik we learned the other people might turn out to look really dumb at the end of the case
juror 828 you make sense that true it made me made as well cause thats not right Mr. colletti i really like this book i cant wait to the end!
$ lm on!!! ,o.k l agree with juror826 beause they are assume the steve is no inccent and l like how you did the assume.So I don't thing that steve so be in this case if the juror is being prejudice :>
When o'brien said "Half of those jurors, no matter what they said when we questioned them when we picked the jury, believed you were guilty the moment they laid eyes on you. You're young, you're black, and you're on trial. What else do they need to know?"
It meant that there are still prejudice people out there and many of them ass/u/me that you did the crime. After all, Petrocelli is the prosecuter and she can only be proven mistaken. But Steve in the other hand is accused of murder which means that he is guilty the minute the jury looks at him.
what i think is that o'brien was saying that the jury had prejudged steve before they have questioning about the case. she said that the jury had prejuded steve by his oufit. the jury was thinking that steve was the crime at first look.
i think they also need to know more about him as in his history and personal records
What O'brien meant by prejudice was that when the judges just looks at steve he assumed that that steve was guilty.In my opinion you shouldnt judge someone by there appearances.
I think that o'brien is trying to tell Steve that the people where already saying that he did the crime just because the way he look. But i stil think that they are being fare on Steve.
what i think that O'brien was trying to tell Steve was that the jurors don't really care if you were guilty or not. they are just prejudging you by looking at you and saying that you're young and black.
well o brien was trying to tell Steve that people just look at you and think something wrong about that person and in court room that is the way they will look at you
I think the jurors in Monster are being prejudced because instatly they just decided that Steve was guilty because they probably think that a teenager would commit a crime like that
what i think o'brien meant by the jury belived you were guilty from the moment they laid eyes on you was that since steve dresses and looks the way he does they all assume he was guilty of the crime.
What would you feel if you were in this kind of event?
What will you tink if you were cought for no reason in a case like this?
I will be pissed and mad for both questions.
Think of Steve Harmon who's involved in this kind of case.
I think that he's kind of traped from both side's. I think it's totaly unfair if that kind of thing happense to any one in the world.
I THINK WHAT OBRIEN SAID TO STVE IS REALY MESSED UP THAT IS BEACUSE WHY SOUHLD ANYBODY BE JUDGED BY THE WaY THEY LOOK? i think stvev should have a fair chance toprove that he is guilty because he is
i say u cant just assume that someone is guilty just by lookin in a store to see if the coast is clear. if i was steve i would be upset because he didnt do anything. i hope what i wrote is correct =)
i agree wit juror 819 because it wuz messed up for O'Brien to say that. It doesnt matter if someone looks bad that doesnt mean that he committed the crime. I think this because someone could look mean and bad but could be the nicest and goodest person ever!!!! BY THE WAY AM JUROR 817!!!!!!!!!!!
sorries..... i couldnt do this hw yesterday i had an emergency that came up.
What she means is that its the way the jury looks at you. If you dress like a mad-man than there bound to think that your guilty.
when steve first came into court, everyone looked at him. what o'brien is trying to say is that the jury judged steve as a MONSTER like what petrocelli said. thats prejudice. but this is what everyone though first. when you get arrested, and go to court, the jury is going to think of you as a bad guy because you came into court which means you commited a crime. of course there going to judge ou right away.
I think that by saying that half the jury "believed [that he was] guilty the moment they laid eyes on [him]", O'Brien was implying that it is a very prejudiced world. Steve had two unhelpful traits that he couldn't help: He was a teenager and he was black. Because of his youth, the jurors would probably think that he was more likely to rob someone than an adult, and, because he was black, more likely to kill a man. The jury, by thinking that way, was "pre-judging" Steve before the trial officially began.
I kind of feel that the statement O'Brien makes is true because it's what a lot of people would think. People judge by looks most of the time. I also think that it's unfair that half of the jury thought Steve was guilty when they first saw him. Aren't jurors picked to be neutral? They are being really prejudiced towards Steve.
I really didn't think think that was races like my class said, because I used to hear kids say races stuff about other people.
Well in first place when he means by, when he is young isthat he is just a teenager and by black it means that is not fear to be mean to other people and to be mean to peaple or to talk bad about him. and that he is on trail and what else do they need to know, and no matter what the pople said about your raise or the culture you are just believe in your self and not in what other people said. And anyways about what will they said about the other thingthat they mension on the other hand that they said that he is too young to be in trail and he is black and what else do they need to know. That is been really mean on what he is saiding and what he means!!!
and MR.COLLETTI please put numbers on the homework assingments, it is really confussing!!!!!!! bye
There are numbers under the number of comments there are.
I feel that's not right in any way. You cant claim someone guilty by just looking at them ..or wat color they are. I just wonder how steve is taking it as if it was nothing.
What O'Brien meant was that the jurors would jump to the conclusion that Steve did it just because Steve is young and black. The jurors would assume these things because young people are reckless which is why adults don't trust them. Also the jurors would assume this because he's black which means that blacks are the ones who steal or stick up people. Not only is that racist but it is a stereotype and a derogatory remark. Also I feel that this is unfair because you can't accuse someone of being guilty and commiting a crime because of their race, color of skin, their actions or their age. It's just silly to do that. The jurors shouldn't judge a book by it's cover meaning that the book is Steve. They shouldn't judge Steve like this. It's idiotic. (Sorry for the foul language.)
The statement that O'Brien mayed was mest up, so what if he is black, young, and his on trail. That don't mean noting, because i know some white young kids that have been on trail. The jurors in Monster were being Prejudice and racist.
I think the jurior should know more about Steven before thinking that because only smart people can get into a good high school
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